# B47 no takeoff possible with governor engaged **URL:** \ **Category:** General Forum\ **Created:** [January 14, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563 "2024-01-14T19:43:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/stuenn)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/1 "2024-01-14T19:43:17Z")
Hello, Friday I bought the B-47G for MSFS 2020.I already had the Bell 206. When using the B-47G with governor engaged I cannot lift off. It‘s just impossible. RPM needle is in the green range Manifold Pressure goes no further than 19 with max collective. See screenshot: ![B47Screenshot](https://blade7.starweb.net/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3dd10491c5d6a50bb978863065f7fc030a22c27a.png) I only can taxi with a noise when the skids scratch the tarmac but there is no liftoff possible. I can only fly the machine with governor off and a separate axis for the throttle. For both Flyinside helicopters I use the Logitech throttle quadrant for the collective function with the same profile in MSFS with reactivity set to 100% and the other settings at 0% and full range of motion. It works flawlessly for the 206. I saw in videos on Youtube that the manifold pressure can go clearly beyond 19 and that the B-47 can take off quite fast with governor engaged. I’ll put a screenshot below from a video by Skaska S. where he is demonstrating a takeoff with active governor. I tried this starting the flights with running machine from the active runway. Is there anything that I am missing? Stefan ---
**Author:** ![stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/stuenn)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/2 "2024-01-14T19:45:33Z")
Here is the screenshot from the video by Skaska S. showing a manifold pressure of 30 shortly during takeoff: ![IMG_9574](https://blade7.starweb.net/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6e5684f2b5ec01a37c76eb8115a3ca1366c5bbcd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/RotorRick)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/3 "2024-01-14T21:42:09Z")
You likely have the wrong axis setup and/or double bound to something. Look at your bindings and match what they should be in the manual. Join the discord, I am sure someone there can help you. RotorRick ---
**Author:** ![stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/stuenn)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/4 "2024-01-14T22:30:21Z")
Axis setup is correct. When I end the flight and just switch to the Bell 206 with the same setup I can fly it without problems. As I said, when I just add the rotor axis to one of the logitech throttle levers and disengage the the governor it works as well. ---
**Author:** ![RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/RotorRick)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/5 "2024-01-14T23:28:42Z")
Try reinstall the 47… You are the only person reporting this, so it’s likely an issue with your setup. You do understand there is a THROTTLE axis for the engine and a COLLECTIVE axis for collective pit on the rotor, right? They are VERY different RotorRick ---
**Author:** ![stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/stuenn)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/6 "2024-01-14T23:51:05Z")
Thank you Rick. I definitely understand what I have to do. Simply look again at my last post, when I just switch to the 206 with EVERYTHING else in exactly the same state it works flawlessly. I slowly raise the collective and the 206 lifts off as it should but NOT the 47, here the manifold presssure rises to 19 and I can hover over the ground a bit, that’s it. When using two different axis for collective and throttle, though, I can fly the 47 without govener engaged as is done in the original helicopter. ---
**Author:** ![stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/stuenn)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/7 "2024-01-15T14:53:40Z")
Hello, I found the solution! Flying the 206 I recognized that the max torque was quite low as well with full collective although flying was possible. I looked closer to the heli manager and raised the physical stick travel, it was about 70%. I raised it and „Bingo“, now torque goes higher and I can fly the B47 with governor, although it is quite fun to do it without it all manually!😊 ---
**Author:** ![RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/RotorRick)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/8 "2024-01-15T16:33:19Z")
Most Excellent. I knew it was an AXIS issue! Great diagnostic work! RotorRick ---
**Author:** ![corradomorgana](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@corradomorgana](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/corradomorgana)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/9 "2024-01-31T23:34:28Z")
I’m getting the same issue, with governor on changed the physical stick travel settings on heli manager…no joy Worked a few days ago, but no longer All works fine with governor off I’ve checked bindings…no double mappings ---
**Author:** ![corradomorgana](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@corradomorgana](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/corradomorgana)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/10 "2024-02-01T00:27:04Z")
Further Testing Governor on…nothing Governor off…everything appears to be correct, cyclic works, throttle works…but no lift. I can get a few feet off the ground and that’s it Was fine before the carribean update ---
**Author:** ![stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@stuenn](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/stuenn)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/11 "2024-02-01T09:02:36Z")
I still have to install the carribean update. I will check if it has changed the B47 behaviour for me as well and come back. ---
**Author:** ![RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@RotorRick](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/RotorRick)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/b47-no-takeoff-possible-with-governor-engaged/1563/12 "2024-02-01T14:12:24Z")
Looks like this conversation has moved to the discord server 🙂 RotorRick