# Ground contacts on v.1.92 **URL:** \ **Category:** FlyInside B206\ **Created:** [December 23, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241 "2022-12-23T05:08:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/didlam)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/1 "2022-12-23T05:08:20Z")
the Bell206 glides on the ground as if it had a running gear: if you land on land with a simple slight slope, the helicopter slips! On the other hand (unrelated to the fact that it slides on the ground), it is impossible to put only one skate or only the front of the skates (which is feasible in reality) on a slope: the 206 loses its stability as soon as it comes into contact with the skates ---
**Author:** ![N602AC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a6a055/32.png) [@N602AC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/N602AC)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/2 "2022-12-23T05:17:28Z")
This may have something to do with attempted changes regarding this person’s post: [https://blade7.starweb.net/t/skid-friction-during-autorotation/1212](https://blade7.starweb.net/t/skid-friction-during-autorotation/1212) ---
**Author:** ![didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/didlam)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/3 "2022-12-23T05:54:04Z")
yes indeed I think that the modification was made to respond to this person in relation to the slips in autorotation, but now the effects generated by this modification have negative impacts on the support of the skates on the ground on slopes! ---
**Author:** ![Gistsc](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Gistsc](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/Gistsc)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 8:47am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/4 "2022-12-23T08:47:41Z")
I see the issue. I am not sure what is going on as I am not an aircraft designer. The fix for friction on the runways is better now, but I can confirm what you are saying here. Landing on a slope she just slides away. I don’t know what parameters affect this, but the Bell 407 in the sim does not suffer from this. I can do run-on landings and have a little slide at the landing auto rotations, but it will also land and hold a slope. Hopefully a fix to balance the two can be found. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/Captain_Wealthy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/5 "2022-12-23T09:31:16Z")
EXACTLY what is happening to me! ---
**Author:** ![didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/didlam)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 9:46am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/6 "2022-12-23T09:46:17Z")
while waiting for a more convincing evolution, I went back to version 1.91 which seems more realistic to me! ---
**Author:** ![support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/support1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/7 "2022-12-23T11:04:53Z")
Thanks for the reports all, we’ll get this dialed in. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/Captain_Wealthy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/8 "2022-12-23T11:43:31Z")
When I finally land (which is still difficult because of the ‘rudder’ issues), my B206 behaves like a supermarket trolley on a very gradual slope! ---
**Author:** ![in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/in_04)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/9 "2022-12-23T11:49:09Z")
The skidding in version 1.92 is to much. Hope they go back to the one of version 1.91 ---
**Author:** ![in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/in_04)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/10 "2022-12-23T12:06:10Z")
Just compared the flight\_model.cfg files from 1.91 and 1.92. They changed the contact point type from 3=skid to 1=wheel So in 1.91 it is all correct, in 1.92 it is wrong because there are skid no wheels I try to go back to type 3=kids and report. ---
**Author:** ![support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/support1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/11 "2022-12-23T12:14:56Z")
Skids unfortunately have non-adjustable friction, which can really mess with run-on landings. We had a bug in 1.92 with our friction adjustment on the wheels. We should have a beta available in a few minutes to test - which should fix the sliding issue, but also work with run-on landings. Would you be interested/available to test? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/Captain_Wealthy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/12 "2022-12-23T12:16:33Z")
I’m not familiar with this ere BETA stuff and really, haven’t got a clue what it is. ---
**Author:** ![support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/support1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/13 "2022-12-23T12:21:40Z")
@in_04 Could you give this build a try and let us know what you think? [https://cdn-east-us.flyinside-fsx.com/FlyInsideB206\_1.93.exe](https://cdn-east-us.flyinside-fsx.com/FlyInsideB206_1.93.exe) This should prevent the weird sliding issues while still allowing for nice run-on autos. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@Captain\_Wealthy](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/Captain_Wealthy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/14 "2022-12-23T12:32:05Z")
Do we have to de-install the 1.92 version first? ---
**Author:** ![support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/support1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/15 "2022-12-23T12:33:02Z")
No - you can just install right over. @Captain_Wealthy - This probably won’t help with the rotation as you lift the collective on the ground (confirmed as bug in Easy mode, we’re working on it). It will help with the sliding on touch-down though. ---
**Author:** ![in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/in_04)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/16 "2022-12-23T12:57:50Z")
Will try it, just downloaded. Report back as soon as installed. Thanks for the fast corrections 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@in\_04](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/in_04)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/17 "2022-12-23T13:08:23Z")
I love it, feels good for me 🙂 Merry Christmas to you and the team. ---
**Author:** ![didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/didlam)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/18 "2022-12-23T13:20:00Z")
in my opinion it’s a little better with v1.93 but it’s not good yet! moreover, it is still not possible to place 1 single skid on sloping ground. ---
**Author:** ![support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@support1](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/support1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/19 "2022-12-23T13:27:21Z")
We’re still working on the single-skid contact issue. We’ll get there soon! Wanted to get this fix out ASAP though because the hill-slide is super annoying EDIT: Didlam, are you finding 1.91 better in this regard? Or is 1.93 an overall improvement from 1.91 and 1.92? ---
**Author:** ![didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@didlam](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/u/didlam)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241/20 "2022-12-23T13:32:53Z")
yes I prefer the 1.91 as far as the position on the ground is concerned, its only problem lies in the fact that you can’t slide when landing from an autorotation in any case, congratulations for the flight model which is very precise. You have reached a milestone which brings us closer to the sensations of helicopter flight [Next page](https://forum.flyinside-helis.com/t/ground-contacts-on-v-1-92/1241.md?page=2)