B47 no takeoff possible with governor engaged

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Hello, Friday I bought the B-47G for MSFS 2020.I already had the Bell 206.

When using the B-47G with governor engaged I cannot lift off. It‘s just impossible.

RPM needle is in the green range Manifold Pressure goes no further than 19 with max collective. See screenshot:

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I only can taxi with a noise when the skids scratch the tarmac but there is no liftoff possible.

I can only fly the machine with governor off and a separate axis for the throttle.

For both Flyinside helicopters I use the Logitech throttle quadrant for the collective function with the same profile in MSFS with reactivity set to 100% and the other settings at 0% and full range of motion. It works flawlessly for the 206.

I saw in videos on Youtube that the manifold pressure can go clearly beyond 19 and that the B-47 can take off quite fast with governor engaged. I’ll put a screenshot below from a video by Skaska S. where he is demonstrating a takeoff with active governor.

I tried this starting the flights with running machine from the active runway.

Is there anything that I am missing?

Stefan

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Here is the screenshot from the video by Skaska S. showing a manifold pressure of 30 shortly during takeoff:

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You likely have the wrong axis setup and/or double bound to something.

Look at your bindings and match what they should be in the manual.

Join the discord, I am sure someone there can help you.

RotorRick

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Axis setup is correct. When I end the flight and just switch to the Bell 206 with the same setup I can fly it without problems. As I said, when I just add the rotor axis to one of the logitech throttle levers and disengage the the governor it works as well.

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Try reinstall the 47… You are the only person reporting this, so it’s likely an issue with your setup.

You do understand there is a THROTTLE axis for the engine and a COLLECTIVE axis for collective pit on the rotor, right? They are VERY different

RotorRick

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Thank you Rick. I definitely understand what I have to do. Simply look again at my last post, when I just switch to the 206 with EVERYTHING else in exactly the same state it works flawlessly. I slowly raise the collective and the 206 lifts off as it should but NOT the 47, here the manifold presssure rises to 19 and I can hover over the ground a bit, that’s it. When using two different axis for collective and throttle, though, I can fly the 47 without govener engaged as is done in the original helicopter.

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Hello, I found the solution! Flying the 206 I recognized that the max torque was quite low as well with full collective although flying was possible.

I looked closer to the heli manager and raised the physical stick travel, it was about 70%. I raised it and „Bingo“, now torque goes higher and I can fly the B47 with governor, although it is quite fun to do it without it all manually!:blush:

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Most Excellent. I knew it was an AXIS issue!

Great diagnostic work!

RotorRick

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I’m getting the same issue, with governor on changed the physical stick travel settings on heli manager…no joy
Worked a few days ago, but no longer
All works fine with governor off

I’ve checked bindings…no double mappings

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Further Testing
Governor on…nothing
Governor off…everything appears to be correct, cyclic works, throttle works…but no lift. I can get a few feet off the ground and that’s it
Was fine before the carribean update

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I still have to install the carribean update. I will check if it has changed the B47 behaviour for me as well and come back.

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Looks like this conversation has moved to the discord server :slight_smile:
RotorRick

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